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gaoyongliang@yahoo.com	# Posted on October 8, 2014 at 14:56
	Reply to Yaqi’s post By Yongliang Gao Thank you for your compliment about the seminar; Nisa and I will be very delightful. I agree with you on the opinion that “In most of the time, poems are inclusive of nature, and beyond nature, presenting the highest reason of human. Human’s reason, in science shows human’s power in, to, against nature; while in poem, power becomes shaded in human itself, but mostly lies in nature. The power of nature let fantasy, let poem, and let philosophy sprout” Partly it is because we share a very similar culture; and we basically learnt many poems in a way that is quite alike. Besides, I have a comment on your view that “human’s power is the guilt to nature”. I think we, as humans are lack of an ability of foreseeing the natural consequences caused by human activities. For instance, if the former generations were able to anticipate the environmental contaminations of the industrial revolution, I wonder whether or not they would let the industrialization take place at such an enormous scale and at such a reimbursing cost. My comment is kind of digressive and irrelevant to the science and art discussion, but your comment reminds me of a need of moral debate here. Yes, we were taught that “Human’s nature is good at the beginning” in China, which I believe is essentially opposite to the spirit of legislation in the West. Besides, I wonder if all men were born with a good nature, then what should be blame when someone become bad? I was grown up with the saying that “Human’s nature is good at the beginning” but I suspect it as I educated and socialised, I think everyone is two-faced in the holistic life span regardless of age. People are just too good at hiding and lying to others and normally prefer to show only the good face to whoever surrounded by because we know once we release out the evil part, we fail the whole world and that is how I understand Mary Midgley’s argument that human action is not only controlled by brain and body, but also by the social expectations.

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# Posted on October 8, 2014 at 14:56

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By Yongliang Gao

Thank you for your compliment about the seminar; Nisa and I will be very delightful. I agree with you on the opinion that “In most of the time, poems are inclusive of nature, and beyond nature, presenting the highest reason of human. Human’s reason, in science shows human’s power in, to, against nature; while in poem, power becomes shaded in human itself, but mostly lies in nature. The power of nature let fantasy, let poem, and let philosophy sprout” Partly it is because we share a very similar culture; and we basically learnt many poems in a way that is quite alike.

Besides, I have a comment on your view that “human’s power is the guilt to nature”. I think we, as humans are lack of an ability of foreseeing the natural consequences caused by human activities. For instance, if the former generations were able to anticipate the environmental contaminations of the industrial revolution, I wonder whether or not they would let the industrialization take place at such an enormous scale and at such a reimbursing cost. My comment is kind of digressive and irrelevant to the science and art discussion, but your comment reminds me of a need of moral debate here.

Yes, we were taught that “Human’s nature is good at the beginning” in China, which I believe is essentially opposite to the spirit of legislation in the West. Besides, I wonder if all men were born with a good nature, then what should be blame when someone become bad? I was grown up with the saying that “Human’s nature is good at the beginning” but I suspect it as I educated and socialised, I think everyone is two-faced in the holistic life span regardless of age. People are just too good at hiding and lying to others and normally prefer to show only the good face to whoever surrounded by because we know once we release out the evil part, we fail the whole world and that is how I understand Mary Midgley’s argument that human action is not only controlled by brain and body, but also by the social expectations.